PLPOA communications about the new Gymnasium
[[ UPDATE March 2025 - The PLPOA has removed all the previously shown data and links on the below referenced Gymnasium page, and replaced everything with the results of the membership vote (in which members rejected the project by a large margin) ]]
The PLPOA has set up a page on their website that lists much of the communications from PLPOA to members. Note that there is some controversy about the information presented, and these documents may not fully reflect the concerns that homeowners have expressed about the project.
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The 1/23/25 PLPOA Eblast - Gym Talk section - has a good summary of project, the voting process, and the difference between the voting for the gym and the 2025 budget. The weekly eblast page on the website is replaced each week, so I have copied/pasted the Gym Talk section to a document which you can download below.
View the plpoa.com page about the new gymnasium proposal
The Gymnasium page includes links to:
- A summary document
- A presentation about the project
- The recording of the zoom meeting labelled as 1/8/24 - but I believe was meant to say 1/8/25
- Q&A document
- A form to submit questions
Do not expect a direct answer. After submitting a question, the form Thank You page states: We will take your comments into consideration and do our best to answer your questions through our weekly eblast, incorporated into the presentations, or on the gymnasium webpage via the FAQ sections
- Finance Committee report
- Special assessments survey results
•The published survey report withholds the collected data regarding how many respondents were in favor and how many were against the proposal. I believe this is important as members' votes may be guided more by their own preferences and the wishes of fellow homeowners, rather than the wishes of the board. To my knowledge, the only recent attempt by the board to gauge member sentiment on capital improvements was the 2023 survey, which did not mention a gym, and which indicated more homeowner interest in trail extensions, lakeside bath rooms and mailbox upgrades over either the construction of a "multi-purpose athletic field for youth" or a "large pavilion next to Rec center."
•However, via personal communication with Lars Schneider, Pagosa Lakes Board President, I have received this additional data from the special assessment survey: the PLPOA received 849 completed surveys, with 338 in favor and 511 not in favor. With a calculated margin of error around 3%, this survey indicates a level of support for the gym at about 40%, with a range of about 37-43%. It is also the only survey that has been conducted since an assessment level was determined
Mr. Schneider points out that: "this represents only a small fraction of the community, and it is even less than half of our annual voter turnout. We anticipate a significantly higher participation rate when the official vote takes place, likely exceeding even the typical annual voting turnout." and that "The intention of this question [asking if they were in support of the gym] was not to survey the community’s overall stance on the project, as that will be addressed through the official ballot." However, it should be noted that this survey was in fact a survey offered to all members and had a response rate very close to the 881 responses to the 2023 survey, which has cited as evidence in support of the gym, and there is no reason to omit the most recent and most informed feedback from the membership.
• To better understand the wishes of the PLPOA homeowners you can view the attached documents:
•2023 Owner Survey Results Presentation
•2023 Survey Excerpt - Member preferences for capital improvement projects. Click this link for a larger, more legible view of this page
- Links to excerpts from their email blasts
- And a couple more items - you can view the page for any updates.
The 2025 Winter PLPOA newsletter included information about the gymnasium ballots and the special meeting that will be held March 1st, just before the voting is closed. This newsletter has not yet been posted to the newsletter archive page at plpoa.com, so for those who may not have access to a paper copy, I have done an OCR scan of the relevant pages which you can access below:
Presentation and Voting Timeline at a glance:
- Saturday, November 16, 2024, 9am PLPOA Conference RM & Via ZOOM: In-person presentation – Before the ballot opens
- Wednesday, January 8, 2025, 6pm PLPOA Clubhouse & Via ZOOM: In-person presentation – Before the ballot opens
- November 16, 2024 – March 1, 2025: Presentation boards available for viewing at owners’ convenience at the PLPOA Admin Office located at 230 Port Ave.
- November 18, 2024 – March 1, 2025: Online presentation accessible on the gymnasium page
- January 27, 2025: Ballot opens
- March 1, 2025, 9am PLPOA Clubhouse & Via ZOOM: In-person meeting – Ballot closes following the meeting